SD8 Let the Students Learn by allowing Access to ALL the Solar Data


               All of this is old, but since the subject has briefly come up, timely to repeat.
10 schools bought a solar panel contract in the Nelson Community solar garden for educational purposes.  The city won't enable the data so one can learn.  I have asked more than once to enable the data.  Both SD8 and the city are aware of my requests.  If the students cannot learn, this waste of public money will continue.

SD8 bought into the solar garden so students could learn, they won't turn on the real data so
students can learn.  Why won't they turn it on?  Students are smart they might figure things out.

l retired from a system that had over 120 remote solar power communication sites, the alternative before solar was flying fuel in helicopters. When I first heard about the solar garden I met with the hydro engineer presenting years of local data showing solar was a waste of money.  He told me the data was irrelevant and he was an engineer.  He brought city council a business case.



                             What is this a picture of?  Please keep reading to discover

UNLESS STUDENTS ARE GIVEN ACCESS TO ALL INFORMATION NOTHING WILL STOP THIS WASTE OF PUBLIC DOLLARS!!!!!!!



Why won't they give full access to all the  data on the  public access to the Nelson Community Solar garden?   Daily info is meaningless.


SD 8 bought 10 contracts(panels),  one for each school they already had a solar system on LVR high school since 2009 apparently no one knew.

Missing public data -  weekly, monthly, yearly, and total energy graphs and reports.
Time lapse how individual panel power changes as clouds or shadows pass over.
Individual panel power so one can see how power can vary between panels because of snow
clouds, shadows, underperforming panels, bird poop all affect power.

They even have security cameras, if made available one could see real time
snow or shadows and compare to panel power outputs.  There is a large power pole with transformer shadow that dances across the panels as the sun moves, they could see what affect that has.
(security cameras $18,000, installed after some copper wire and later panels were stolen)
This could be a wonderful learning tool for everyone if they would just allow the data public!

All the real data that tells the solar story is Locked out, disabled, password protected!

Could it be students might start to figure out the value of solar, how it can't work for us here.



  Above an actual annual graph of a solar power system in Nelson,  December highlighted notice 7.93kWh or .07 cents worth.  All the power is made in  summer, winter months next to nothing.



  Above the Nelson hydro dam, the only city in western Canada with its own hydro generation can't even use all the water from spring runoff in April, through high summer water levels.  The entire Pacific Northwest is overflowing, no public money solar panel power is worth anything at this time, we aren't even using the water.



In winter when the millions of acre feet of water stored in all our reservoirs(our winter batteries) begins to draw down we could use solar, it doesn't work.

    Millions in public money wasted in BC on solar that doesn't work in winter when we need,  I guess it really doesn't matter if the front row shades the back row, nothing works anyway, but who would install a system so the front row shades the back row?  Nelson did.

Let the students see the data!   How snow affects panel power outputs, how shadows change power

If one could see the data as is made available above notice how small amounts of snow affect power. A small eyebrow of snow on the first panel takes 1/3 of the power away,  or further along down to 15 watts 90% of the power lost with maybe half a panel covered in snow.


              How did the solar garden get installed so front rows shade the back row?

I have the engineers drawings that shows row spacing at 6m to avoid shading, it was installed with 3m spacing and lower panel angle to mitigate shading.  I have asked who signed off on these engineering changes, they won't answer.




                          After one winter all the panels are buckling, Why?????

The engineers  info states an 1800 lb vibratory roller was to be used for compaction for ground mount ballast, this wasn't done, could that be the reason for ground heaving the concrete ballasts?

The engineers drawings show that they must inspect at various stages, if not, notes must be kept for changes by the owner (city).   I asked for the notes, they have NONE!  I asked who signed off on all these engineered changes, no answers!!!

BC is all about water power and storage.

Duncan Lake for example, 30 miles long stores 140 million acre feet of water 100 feet deep, along with Kootenay Lake and Libby millions of acre feet of water, our winter batteries drawn down until spring runoff recharges them.   During these winter months solar is next to worthless.

 We make 45% of the province's clean green power in the Kootenays, what kind of political stunt was this $400,000 solar garden you pay for with your hydro bill that makes power for maybe one house in the winter.


The non renewables in mining, manufacture, transportation and end of life toxic disposal makes solar panels dirty power in BC. 

Unless you can avoid the burning of some non renewable fuel like coal in a conventional power plant, which can't happen here, solar is dirty power.









Who changed the engineers tilt angle down to 30 degrees?  Was this so the front
row of panels didn't completely shade the back rows?



Panels should be at 60 degrees  for maximum year round power, we don't need summer power we need winter power.  60 degrees causes snow to shed easier and sooner.  Maximizes power in weak low angle short days of winter sun, when we could use and need maximum power.

Panels angles of 30 degrees or thereabouts  maximize summer power, we don't need it then.


Public money on solar grid tie power is politics, misunderstood, wasted money.

The Nelson community solar garden is the posterchild of greenwashing absurdity and waste.



                           This is private  properly installed system after a few winters

  Above pictures show the  Solar garden, more like a backyard homemade system installation.
Will this last 25 years?  Concrete ballast blocks are moving, wood will begin to crack, twist and rot.

Above one of the many deceptive media items for the "investors" of the solar garden!


Rather coercive don't you think?  "only those who invest will receive the benefits.!"   Along with a GREEN caption I asked the hydro manager at a public meeting what makes the solar garden power green, his reply "Nobody said it was green"

Let the students see all the data and learn maybe this will stop the public dollars wasted on solar here where it can't help us.



Contact the mayor and council   mayordooley@nelson.ca
or council at NelsonCouncil@nelson.ca

                                  THEY GOT AN AWARD FOR THE SOLAR GARDEN
                                               below award ceremony pic
   Alex Love hydro manager left,  Carmen Proctor solar contractor now Nelson hydro management, next former mayor Kozak and Trish Dehnel always circulating somewhere in the green initiativess, I believe installing EV charging stations presently under some provincial grant initiative.


Long ago I presented this to the SD8 superintendent, school trustees, Nelson hydro manager, city manager,  city councilors anyone I could think of asking they show all the data.

Why won't they turn on the data?  Obviously people might figure out what a total waste of money this solar garden is for everyone.  If students don't learn, this bleed of public money into this solar fantasy won't stop.

 Hydro manager sent me an email saying he would block my emails I was wasting everyone's time.  I asked the city manager why they didn't hire someone with expertise in the discipline, the solar garden contractor had no solar background whatsoever.  His reply "we don't have to".   I applied twice to speak in front of council city manager Cormack denied me.  I have the emails.



Contact the mayor and council or school superintendent or trusttees let the students and public
have all the data so we can all learn and stop this waste of public money.

mayordooley@nelson.ca

NelsonCouncil@nelson.ca

christine.perkins@sd8.bc.ca

Ask the school superintendent if anyone is teaching anything about solar in any school
They have the system on the high school and all the other 10 schools have a panel in
the community solar garden, education funds, are they being wasted?


They said this was voluntary and fully funded by those opting in, the estimate $186,00, this was the
number used to create the per panel cost.  It was never adjusted.

Costs went over $400,000 your hydro bill pays that and all future costs.

Plus the lost income that otherwise would have been earned from cleaner greener water making that
power and profits, now spilling down the river.


Greenwashing Absurdity at its finest!

Go to facebook page NelsonTalkz to see what else they do to us.




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